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JohnCleese Jan 5th, 2005 12:27 PM

Timothy Dalton *must* play Bond in Bond 21
 
Yes, he *must*.

If the producers wants to come back to basic, and have Bond be "serious" like Connery and Dalton, then Dalton has to play Bond in Bond 21.

If he played Bond in Bond 21, then he will start to shape Bond that we will scene for the netx few decades.

After Dalton's 1 film stunt, James Bond #6 will grab the Bond that Dalton made, and shape it even more.

Lets just hope that Bond #6 will have a 7 picture deal.

Then, Bond #7 can continue the "serious Bond" era.

If that happends, the serie will be saved, and we will live many many great years with new James Bond movies comming each 2-3 years.

If that happends, other spy series won't stand a chance against Bond.

I am PRAYING that the Producers reads this

hiteman34 Jan 5th, 2005 12:30 PM

I agree, and if you look at it, Dalton's Bond looks similiar to Brosnan's Bond, even though they each had their own version of Bond, they looked similiar playing the part. Perhaps bringing back Daltonw oudl be the best movie sicne calling up Connery to do Dr. No

Lazenby007 Jan 6th, 2005 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hiteman34
I agree, and if you look at it, Dalton's Bond looks similiar to Brosnan's Bond, even though they each had their own version of Bond, they looked similiar playing the part. Perhaps bringing back Daltonw oudl be the best movie sicne calling up Connery to do Dr. No

Actually Brosnan's Bond is more similiar to Roger Moore's Bond than Dalton's Bond. Both Brosnan and Moore are very good light comedians, they brought humor to the series. Connery was serious but with a sophisticated flair, Dalton was to DARK!

JohnCleese Jan 7th, 2005 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazenby007
Both Brosnan and Moore are very good light comedians, they brought humor to the series.

No.

Moore played the comedy just right.

Brosnan doesn't even know how to act comedy right. That's why he looked as an idot in the role.

Connery and Dalton are the BEST Bond: dark and serious.

Dalton was juts the dark and serious enough.

I am sure he can be even MORE dark and serious in Bond 21.

Lazenby007 Jan 7th, 2005 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
No.

Moore played the comedy just right.

Brosnan doesn't even know how to act comedy right. That's why he looked as an idot in the role.

Connery and Dalton are the BEST Bond: dark and serious.

Dalton was juts the dark and serious enough.

I am sure he can be even MORE dark and serious in Bond 21.

Brosnan had great comedic timing, not as good as Moore but it is there in his films. And Connery was serious and dry not dark. Dalton was DARK.

JohnCleese Jan 7th, 2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazenby007
Brosnan had great comedic timing, not as good as Moore but it is there in his films. And Connery was serious and dry not dark. Dalton was DARK.

Well, Dalton should be dark or even DARKER in Bond 21.

That way, Bond#6 can continue the dark era.

Spanner Jan 23rd, 2005 07:52 PM

What Brosnan was able to do was to take the interesting emotional territory Dalton had started exploring and fuse it with Moore's lighter style. Not always successfully, but there were scenes in Brosnan's films which seemed Daltonesque and those more suited to Roger Moore. I think Brosnan's best work in the role was when he had Dalton's darkness.

Mav Jan 24th, 2005 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spanner
What Brosnan was able to do was to take the interesting emotional territory Dalton had started exploring and fuse it with Moore's lighter style. Not always successfully, but there were scenes in Brosnan's films which seemed Daltonesque and those more suited to Roger Moore. I think Brosnan's best work in the role was when he had Dalton's darkness.

I agree with Spanner. Brosnans greatest success was being able to combine the elements of all the previous Bond actors into one cohesive whole whilst still stamping his signature on the part.

Just as with Lazenby, I wish Dalton had been able to do at least one more...what could have been...

JohnCleese Jan 24th, 2005 06:42 AM

Mav, Dalton should of made 2 more, since that was his contract.

His contract was 4 movies (1987,1989,1991 and 1993)

What could of been... :(

George Lazenby Jan 24th, 2005 09:49 AM

Myself I don't think Brosnan has much in the way of comedy. I put him right with Dalton in that one.


The first 3 Bonds seem leaps and leaps funnier in comparison to the last two when you watch the films.

Of course the writing and the directing and way the producers go figures on that too.

But Moore's "silly humor" was pulled off where Brosnan's isn't. Dalton didn't even have it.

I would describe Pierce as a cross between Dalton and Moore minus the humor.

He's always said to be like Connery or whatever or cross between Connery and Moore.....

I hear people say Dalton is like Connery too....

To me though

Connery is like Connery
Moore is like Moore
Lazenby is like Dalton and Connery
Dalton is like Lazenby minus the humor and physicality
Brosnan is like Dalton and Moore minus the humor

Brosnan doesn't have the physicality to be like Connery and neither do Moore or Dalton

Mav Jan 24th, 2005 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by George Lazenby
Connery is like Connery
Moore is like Moore
Lazenby is like Dalton and Connery
Dalton is like Lazenby minus the humor and physicality
Brosnan is like Dalton and Moore minus the humor

Lazenby is a hard one to define, especialy seeing as we have only one performance to see where he was going. In my opinion he definately had Connery's sexual swagger and physical presense. Pierce is more lean whereas George & Connery are muscular. Lazenby's acting chops at the time gave him an openess and sincerity to his perfomance which I found true to the situations and events of the script. The last scene is an absolute killer. To have Bond weep for his bride is increadibly hard to pull off. Would Connery been able to do it?...we will never know. It's a shame Lazenby isn't considered when people talk about Bond in the same way as praise is given to Connery & Moore. It's interesting to think what parts of Lazenby's performance influenced Brosnan because he most certainly worked in elements and flavours from Connery, Moore & Dalton. Can people see a George influence?

George Lazenby Jan 25th, 2005 09:23 AM

Pierce said before (as in before he was told not to say it) that Lazenby and his film were sad and pathetic and a disgrace and that he hates the film and Lazenby's acting and him and the film should have been removed from the Bond library ( a lot of people seem to agree).

After the press ran with this he has since called OHMSS great and Lazenby a good Bond.

But how he really feels was from above as he said in an interview before GoldenEye.

So if he does have any Lazenby influence it would be quite ironic.

But I don't see it. To me Pierce is like a Dalton and Moore combined, but just not the part of Moore that had the humor.

Peter Franks Jan 28th, 2005 03:22 AM

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Connery and Dalton are the BEST Bond: dark and serious.
Connery was never dark and serious, he played 007 as an impersonal and cold secret agent, doing his job while indulging in the pleasures of women, game and drinks.
And I suppose you haven't seen both YOLT and DAF, were his Bond begins to become comical and cartoony. And I won’t even talk about NSNA!

He is the definitive Bond in my Book, but never dark or serious, just a cool and dangerous gentleman secret agent.

Now Dalton, he was hard edge and Dark, a haunted soul, and his business was gritty and violent. Very cool, such a shame he didn't make a third, but now he is old, he still looks quite good , but he has lost his edge, he can't be menacing anymore, as I've seen in his last performances...

You just can't be serious and think that EON would consider for a second getting a 007 actor that is older than Brosnan, and who wasn't very popular with the public to begin with!


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Brosnan doesn't even know how to act comedy right. That's why he looked as an idot in the role.
Brosnan did amazingly well as 007, he never looked like an idiot in the role, and he handled the humor in a normal way; charming, but never over the top, as sometimes the Moore films went, and Connery's Diamonds Are Forever.

Quartermaster007 Mar 6th, 2005 04:47 PM

I think Connery put in the right amount of humor:
Moore = just a little to funny
Dalton = A little too serious, but I like that
Connery = half and half
fave Connery quote:
Thunderball:
Bond: ~Places Volpe in a chair after being shot~ "Do you mind if she sits this one out? She's just dead," :lol:

002 Apr 5th, 2005 08:06 PM

I'm with the Dalton camp. Living Daylights is my favourite of the Bond films, and LTK doesn't deserve the critical panning it got on its release. Sure its no Thunderball or Goldfinger, but it and TLD show what Dalton was/is capable of. My only concern is that maybe TD is a little old now. How old is he, exactly? I've always seen JB as being midthirties, up to about mid forties. But otherwise he is just a caricature running and jumping about.
1991 and 1993 would have been good - now we can only dream, and wait for Casino Royale.


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