Is Sylvia Trench ACTUALLY Paris Carver?

i007_Bond_007i · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:35 PM

I was thinking about how Sylvia Trench could be Paris Carver. Sylvia Trench was a former lover of Bond, in the early films. Then she suddenly disappears. Then in TND Bond approaches Paris,

"I wondered what it would feel like if I ever saw you again."
*SLAP*
"Well now I know."
"How about the words, 'I'll be right back'"."

What does everyone think?

**Perminisconious** · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by i007_Bond_007i
I was thinking about how Sylvia Trench could be Paris Carver. Sylvia Trench was a former lover of Bond, in the early films. Then she suddenly disappears. Then in TND Bond approaches Paris,

"I wondered what it would feel like if I ever saw you again."
*SLAP*
"Well now I know."
"How about the words, 'I'll be right back'"."

What does everyone think?

Well, I don't think Bond ever said to Sylvia "I'll be right back."

George Lazenby · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:41 PM

Didn't Bond tell Sylvia, I have to go away for a bit, in FRWL?

Hmm, yea I think he's figured something out here.

Maxwell · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:44 PM

In one of Bruce Fierstein's interviews at the time, he said that in an early draft, he gave Paris a line like, " You left me in a raft in the middle of the OCEAN!!!"

I always thought that was a good line, and I'm not a big Fierstein fan.

George Lazenby · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:47 PM

Guess that answers that one.

Damn, then why did they kill her?

**Perminisconious** · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxwell
In one of Bruce Fierstein's interviews at the time, he said that in an early draft, he gave Paris a line like, " You left me in a raft in the middle of the OCEAN!!!"

I always thought that was a good line, and I'm not a big Fierstein fan.

That would be a good line, but it might fit better in an Austin Powers movie, just cuz if you watch the deleted scenes on the first one, he makes a comment on how 'all the movies' end up in a raft in the middle of the ocean.

Maxwell · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by George Lazenby
Guess that answers that one.

Damn, then why did they kill her?

Yeah, it's a good (as in funny, laugh-inducing) line, but they didn't keep it, so it's not "canon."

Why did they kill her?

No idea. Motivation for Bond?

George Lazenby · Jul 24th, 2003, 05:56 PM

Well, I mean so Bond can cry in TWINE, and get all wossy over killing 006 in GE, but he can just see Paris (Sylia) killed and it's like oh paris, oh well, time to go.

Maxwell · Jul 24th, 2003, 06:01 PM

Yup! Jump in the car...tool around the garage, firing missiles, having fun!

Proxima · Jul 24th, 2003, 09:57 PM

Well, no. If Paris Carver was Sylvia Trench, her name would be Sylvia Trench instead of Paris Carver. While they may have gotten the idea from FRWL, Paris Carver is not Sylvia Trench.

The6thBond · Jul 24th, 2003, 10:29 PM

Sylvia Trench could have got married which changed her last name to Carver and could have changed her first name as well. That could make it Paris Carver. Great way to keep a low profile, but no Paris is not Sylvia. I'm sure they are two different characters.

Maxwell · Jul 24th, 2003, 11:01 PM

Her name wasn't supposed to be Paris originally, either...

Don't ask me what it was, 'cause I don't remember.

Perhaps one of you fine Bond-ofiles could research it....

PrinceKamalKhan · Jul 24th, 2003, 11:13 PM

I don't think Paris is Sylvia Trench. After all, Paris is American and Sylvia is English. If Paris was in fact a previous Bond girl I figure she would have been Tiffany Case since I could easily see the opportunisitic Tiffany marrying millionaire Carver for his money. Also, both Teri Hatcher and Jill St. John are both adept at portraying "brassy American female" character types and both of their characters share witty repartee with 007.

Maxwell · Jul 24th, 2003, 11:49 PM

I found out Paris' original name....Paris...as in "We'll always have...," but her and the villain's original name was Harmsway.

So Paris Harmsway.

Proxima · Jul 25th, 2003, 08:18 PM

"Harmsway" sounds like a very Ian Fleming name. I think they should have used it.

Jul 24th, 2003, 05:35 PM	#1
i007_Bond_007i Bones - 0014 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Devon, England Posts: 1,661 Gameroom Cash: $250	Is Sylvia Trench ACTUALLY Paris Carver? I was thinking about how Sylvia Trench could be Paris Carver. Sylvia Trench was a former lover of Bond, in the early films. Then she suddenly disappears. Then in TND Bond approaches Paris, "I wondered what it would feel like if I ever saw you again." SLAP "Well now I know." "How about the words, 'I'll be right back'"." What does everyone think? __________________ "I'm so ronery, So ronery, So ronery and sadry arone..."

Jul 24th, 2003, 05:41 PM	#3
George Lazenby ONCE WAS NOT ENOUGH Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On Assingment Posts: 3,912 Gameroom Cash: $515	Didn't Bond tell Sylvia, I have to go away for a bit, in FRWL? Hmm, yea I think he's figured something out here. __________________

Jul 24th, 2003, 05:44 PM	#4
Maxwell Agent Provocateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 899 Gameroom Cash: $250	In one of Bruce Fierstein's interviews at the time, he said that in an early draft, he gave Paris a line like, " You left me in a raft in the middle of the OCEAN!!!" I always thought that was a good line, and I'm not a big Fierstein fan. __________________ "Thank you, Sam," (Frodo) said in a cracked whisper. "How far is there to go?" "I don't know," said Sam, "because I don't know where we're going." The Return of the King p.269

Jul 24th, 2003, 05:47 PM	#5
George Lazenby ONCE WAS NOT ENOUGH Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On Assingment Posts: 3,912 Gameroom Cash: $515	Guess that answers that one. Damn, then why did they kill her? __________________

Jul 24th, 2003, 05:56 PM	#8
George Lazenby ONCE WAS NOT ENOUGH Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On Assingment Posts: 3,912 Gameroom Cash: $515	Well, I mean so Bond can cry in TWINE, and get all wossy over killing 006 in GE, but he can just see Paris (Sylia) killed and it's like oh paris, oh well, time to go. __________________

Jul 24th, 2003, 06:01 PM	#9
Maxwell Agent Provocateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 899 Gameroom Cash: $250	Yup! Jump in the car...tool around the garage, firing missiles, having fun! __________________ "Thank you, Sam," (Frodo) said in a cracked whisper. "How far is there to go?" "I don't know," said Sam, "because I don't know where we're going." The Return of the King p.269

Jul 24th, 2003, 09:57 PM	#10
Proxima Lovably Pompous Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 320 Gameroom Cash: $250	Well, no. If Paris Carver was Sylvia Trench, her name would be Sylvia Trench instead of Paris Carver. While they may have gotten the idea from FRWL, Paris Carver is not Sylvia Trench. __________________ One more thing, Mr. Blofeld, how do you explain dressing in drag in 1971? The seventies were a very confusing time for me. Besides, everyone was doing it.

Jul 24th, 2003, 10:29 PM	#11
The6thBond Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 3,311 Gameroom Cash: $350	Sylvia Trench could have got married which changed her last name to Carver and could have changed her first name as well. That could make it Paris Carver. Great way to keep a low profile, but no Paris is not Sylvia. I'm sure they are two different characters. __________________ I'm alive and well!

Jul 24th, 2003, 11:01 PM	#12
Maxwell Agent Provocateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 899 Gameroom Cash: $250	Her name wasn't supposed to be Paris originally, either... Don't ask me what it was, 'cause I don't remember. Perhaps one of you fine Bond-ofiles could research it.... __________________ "Thank you, Sam," (Frodo) said in a cracked whisper. "How far is there to go?" "I don't know," said Sam, "because I don't know where we're going." The Return of the King p.269

Jul 24th, 2003, 11:13 PM	#13
PrinceKamalKhan Agent Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 106 Gameroom Cash: $250	I don't think Paris is Sylvia Trench. After all, Paris is American and Sylvia is English. If Paris was in fact a previous Bond girl I figure she would have been Tiffany Case since I could easily see the opportunisitic Tiffany marrying millionaire Carver for his money. Also, both Teri Hatcher and Jill St. John are both adept at portraying "brassy American female" character types and both of their characters share witty repartee with 007. __________________ Barbara Bach is the true and original XXX. Vin Diesel is an impostor.

Jul 24th, 2003, 11:49 PM	#14
Maxwell Agent Provocateur Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 899 Gameroom Cash: $250	I found out Paris' original name....Paris...as in "We'll always have...," but her and the villain's original name was Harmsway. So Paris Harmsway. __________________ "Thank you, Sam," (Frodo) said in a cracked whisper. "How far is there to go?" "I don't know," said Sam, "because I don't know where we're going." The Return of the King p.269

Jul 25th, 2003, 08:18 PM	#15
Proxima Lovably Pompous Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 320 Gameroom Cash: $250	"Harmsway" sounds like a very Ian Fleming name. I think they should have used it. __________________ One more thing, Mr. Blofeld, how do you explain dressing in drag in 1971? The seventies were a very confusing time for me. Besides, everyone was doing it.

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